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		<title>By: PhillyGrrl says it better than I did &#124; Cup o&#39; Joel</title>
		<link>http://phillygrrl.com/2009/09/02/brian-tierneys-latest-campaign/#comment-2192</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PhillyGrrl says it better than I did &#124; Cup o&#39; Joel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of my favorite bloggers, PhillyGrrl, takes up the cause this morning with a post of her own expressing deep skepticism about Tierney specifically and Philadelphia [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of my favorite bloggers, PhillyGrrl, takes up the cause this morning with a post of her own expressing deep skepticism about Tierney specifically and Philadelphia [...]</p>
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		<title>By: marie</title>
		<link>http://phillygrrl.com/2009/09/02/brian-tierneys-latest-campaign/#comment-2115</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 01:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He laid off over 100 reporters and photographers and ad people in 2007 - another 50 or more in 2009!!I hope tomorrow HE is looking for work!!
It makes me ill that he calls himself a Christian!!
God bless the workers at the paper!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He laid off over 100 reporters and photographers and ad people in 2007 &#8211; another 50 or more in 2009!!I hope tomorrow HE is looking for work!!<br />
It makes me ill that he calls himself a Christian!!<br />
God bless the workers at the paper!!</p>
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		<title>By: phillygrrl</title>
		<link>http://phillygrrl.com/2009/09/02/brian-tierneys-latest-campaign/#comment-2082</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phillygrrl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 03:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;That was clearly a bit of insomnia-induced bitch-rant there. &quot;

I do it all the time :/ No worries. 

&quot;I do genuinely believe that this town is gonna get seriously fucked by the greedy/corrupt for five or ten years if the dailies go under, though, which is why I’m so touchy about this stuff. I like Philly!&quot;

I like Philly too. And newspapers. Definitely don&#039;t want to see the dailies go under, but if they can&#039;t sustain themselves, the business model needs re-examining. Hopefully everything will work out *crosses fingers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That was clearly a bit of insomnia-induced bitch-rant there. &#8221;</p>
<p>I do it all the time :/ No worries. </p>
<p>&#8220;I do genuinely believe that this town is gonna get seriously fucked by the greedy/corrupt for five or ten years if the dailies go under, though, which is why I’m so touchy about this stuff. I like Philly!&#8221;</p>
<p>I like Philly too. And newspapers. Definitely don&#8217;t want to see the dailies go under, but if they can&#8217;t sustain themselves, the business model needs re-examining. Hopefully everything will work out *crosses fingers.</p>
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		<title>By: lexis-nexis lady</title>
		<link>http://phillygrrl.com/2009/09/02/brian-tierneys-latest-campaign/#comment-2075</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lexis-nexis lady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 17:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That was clearly a bit of insomnia-induced bitch-rant there. It just pushes my buttons when someone equates disseminating information with creating information. Then again, I&#039;m not in ads; I would imagine that ad people tend to think of it more in a sum-total way than maybe other blogs around town who always cast it as some weird Battle Royale between the righteous bloggers and the old incompetent print media. Although I&#039;m sure they&#039;re mostly doing it to get a thousand pageviews from an angry Dan Gross.

I do genuinely believe that this town is gonna get seriously fucked by the greedy/corrupt for five or ten years if the dailies go under, though, which is why I&#039;m so touchy about this stuff. I like Philly! I think people should be less blithe about what our officials will do if they know there&#039;s only hobbyists and underfunded freelancers watching!

But lord knows &quot;should&quot; is a dumb word to be using these days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was clearly a bit of insomnia-induced bitch-rant there. It just pushes my buttons when someone equates disseminating information with creating information. Then again, I&#8217;m not in ads; I would imagine that ad people tend to think of it more in a sum-total way than maybe other blogs around town who always cast it as some weird Battle Royale between the righteous bloggers and the old incompetent print media. Although I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re mostly doing it to get a thousand pageviews from an angry Dan Gross.</p>
<p>I do genuinely believe that this town is gonna get seriously fucked by the greedy/corrupt for five or ten years if the dailies go under, though, which is why I&#8217;m so touchy about this stuff. I like Philly! I think people should be less blithe about what our officials will do if they know there&#8217;s only hobbyists and underfunded freelancers watching!</p>
<p>But lord knows &#8220;should&#8221; is a dumb word to be using these days.</p>
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		<title>By: phillygrrl</title>
		<link>http://phillygrrl.com/2009/09/02/brian-tierneys-latest-campaign/#comment-2074</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phillygrrl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi lexis-nexis, 

Thanks for your comments. Good to hear from a journalist&#039;s perspective.

I should clarify my (rather glib) comments about old/new journalism.  Naturally, since I write for on average, five blogs, I will protest to the death the need for a forum (like this), where folks can discuss/debate current events/trends/etc.  But clearly, blogs can&#039;t run without &quot;original hard news material.&quot; It&#039;s a symbiotic relationship. At the same time, I still do think the reason why they&#039;re so successful is because on some level, they provide news that major newspapers can miss/don&#039;t cover. Take www.sepiamutiny.com, for instance. If you&#039;re a South Asian American looking for news about your community, as I am - there will be times they&#039;re able to do a better job than mainstream newspapers. They pick up the slack.  (Which probably has to do with having more diversity in the newsroom, but don&#039;t let me get started on that rant.) 

http://www.justdemocracyblog.org/?p=540

Now, alt-weeklies are another story. Sure they have less resources than PHM, but I don&#039;t think Brian Howard and his team at City Paper depend on PMH for &quot;original hard-news reporting.&quot; They definitely do it themselves, as does PW. Perhaps they can&#039;t afford to do it on a daily basis.... but if more people would advertise with them, they could! (Hello Philly Ad Club, advertise with alt-weeklies!)

Also regarding &quot;If you’d showed even the slightest bit of curiosity about this, just to the point of googling, you’d have noticed that Tierney is on the board of Philadelphia Ad Club with Gillespie.&quot;

Excellent point, thanks. I was well aware of that fact and assumed folks knew that. My mistake.  I didn&#039;t add that specific fact, but I did point out the close relationship between T. and G. Please take a look at the line in the post above &quot;(Which makes sense considering Tierney is your buddy in the Philly Ad Club’s Advocacy committee.)&quot; 

Now on to resources. I think the whole point of my rant was that Philly&#039;s ad agencies should know better than to lay all their eggs in one basket. Asking businesses to invest in Tierney&#039;s holdings simply on the basis that they&#039;re local is ridiculous, as you pointed out. Why invest in philly.com, which does a terrible job of disseminating news, when there are half a dozen websites that could do a better job and attract a greater number of readers? But I think the numbers will speak for themselves. If old journalism were really speaking to their subscribers, circulation wouldn&#039;t have fallen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi lexis-nexis, </p>
<p>Thanks for your comments. Good to hear from a journalist&#8217;s perspective.</p>
<p>I should clarify my (rather glib) comments about old/new journalism.  Naturally, since I write for on average, five blogs, I will protest to the death the need for a forum (like this), where folks can discuss/debate current events/trends/etc.  But clearly, blogs can&#8217;t run without &#8220;original hard news material.&#8221; It&#8217;s a symbiotic relationship. At the same time, I still do think the reason why they&#8217;re so successful is because on some level, they provide news that major newspapers can miss/don&#8217;t cover. Take <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sepiamutiny.com</a>, for instance. If you&#8217;re a South Asian American looking for news about your community, as I am &#8211; there will be times they&#8217;re able to do a better job than mainstream newspapers. They pick up the slack.  (Which probably has to do with having more diversity in the newsroom, but don&#8217;t let me get started on that rant.) </p>
<p><a href="http://www.justdemocracyblog.org/?p=540" rel="nofollow">http://www.justdemocracyblog.org/?p=540</a></p>
<p>Now, alt-weeklies are another story. Sure they have less resources than PHM, but I don&#8217;t think Brian Howard and his team at City Paper depend on PMH for &#8220;original hard-news reporting.&#8221; They definitely do it themselves, as does PW. Perhaps they can&#8217;t afford to do it on a daily basis&#8230;. but if more people would advertise with them, they could! (Hello Philly Ad Club, advertise with alt-weeklies!)</p>
<p>Also regarding &#8220;If you’d showed even the slightest bit of curiosity about this, just to the point of googling, you’d have noticed that Tierney is on the board of Philadelphia Ad Club with Gillespie.&#8221;</p>
<p>Excellent point, thanks. I was well aware of that fact and assumed folks knew that. My mistake.  I didn&#8217;t add that specific fact, but I did point out the close relationship between T. and G. Please take a look at the line in the post above &#8220;(Which makes sense considering Tierney is your buddy in the Philly Ad Club’s Advocacy committee.)&#8221; </p>
<p>Now on to resources. I think the whole point of my rant was that Philly&#8217;s ad agencies should know better than to lay all their eggs in one basket. Asking businesses to invest in Tierney&#8217;s holdings simply on the basis that they&#8217;re local is ridiculous, as you pointed out. Why invest in philly.com, which does a terrible job of disseminating news, when there are half a dozen websites that could do a better job and attract a greater number of readers? But I think the numbers will speak for themselves. If old journalism were really speaking to their subscribers, circulation wouldn&#8217;t have fallen.</p>
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		<title>By: lexis-nexis lady</title>
		<link>http://phillygrrl.com/2009/09/02/brian-tierneys-latest-campaign/#comment-2073</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lexis-nexis lady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK it&#039;s totally stupid for me to be defending this, because PMH laid me off a year ago while Tierney and a few other executives took bonuses many times my yearly paycheck and I find the Keep It Local thing obnoxious as fuck, but seriously: most original hard-news reporting in Philly at the moment is absolutely done by the Inquirer and Daily News. I don&#039;t think you&#039;ll find that even the bitchiest of the new-media heralds who have actually worked in the business would claim that TV news, blogs and the alt-weeklies are creating original hard news material more than once in a while, or would be able to fill the void if PMH (or whatever they&#039;re calling themselves these days) no longer supplied them with primary-source material. 

I am not saying this to imply that they&#039;re inferior or lazy or something, which I think is one of the big misunderstandings that gets old and new media people all two-hamsters-in-one-cage all the time. I&#039;m just pointing out that they don&#039;t and will not for a while have the resources to send someone to City Council meetings, pay someone who&#039;s not some dumbass 22-year-old (spoken as someone who was recently a dumbass 22-year-old) to work on a story for more than a day, listen to the police scanner at night, check facts, etc. 

I mean, goddamn. Mr. Old Journalism. Please. If you&#039;d showed even the slightest bit of curiosity about this, just to the point of googling, you&#039;d have noticed that Tierney is on the board of Philadelphia Ad Club with Gillespie. 

http://www.phillyadclub.com/about_officers.php]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK it&#8217;s totally stupid for me to be defending this, because PMH laid me off a year ago while Tierney and a few other executives took bonuses many times my yearly paycheck and I find the Keep It Local thing obnoxious as fuck, but seriously: most original hard-news reporting in Philly at the moment is absolutely done by the Inquirer and Daily News. I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ll find that even the bitchiest of the new-media heralds who have actually worked in the business would claim that TV news, blogs and the alt-weeklies are creating original hard news material more than once in a while, or would be able to fill the void if PMH (or whatever they&#8217;re calling themselves these days) no longer supplied them with primary-source material. </p>
<p>I am not saying this to imply that they&#8217;re inferior or lazy or something, which I think is one of the big misunderstandings that gets old and new media people all two-hamsters-in-one-cage all the time. I&#8217;m just pointing out that they don&#8217;t and will not for a while have the resources to send someone to City Council meetings, pay someone who&#8217;s not some dumbass 22-year-old (spoken as someone who was recently a dumbass 22-year-old) to work on a story for more than a day, listen to the police scanner at night, check facts, etc. </p>
<p>I mean, goddamn. Mr. Old Journalism. Please. If you&#8217;d showed even the slightest bit of curiosity about this, just to the point of googling, you&#8217;d have noticed that Tierney is on the board of Philadelphia Ad Club with Gillespie. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.phillyadclub.com/about_officers.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.phillyadclub.com/about_officers.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: phillygrrl</title>
		<link>http://phillygrrl.com/2009/09/02/brian-tierneys-latest-campaign/#comment-2072</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phillygrrl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Phillytom, it&#039;s just so hard to keep track of the things he&#039;s done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Phillytom, it&#8217;s just so hard to keep track of the things he&#8217;s done.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillytom</title>
		<link>http://phillygrrl.com/2009/09/02/brian-tierneys-latest-campaign/#comment-2069</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phillytom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You forgot to mention that it&#039;s the same Brian Tierney who laid off over 100 workers when he took over.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot to mention that it&#8217;s the same Brian Tierney who laid off over 100 workers when he took over.</p>
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		<title>By: phillygrrl</title>
		<link>http://phillygrrl.com/2009/09/02/brian-tierneys-latest-campaign/#comment-2065</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phillygrrl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I hate that stuff. Plus, they rarely report anything in my neighborhood. They&#039;re very Center City centered. Although CP and PW fill that niche very nicely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I hate that stuff. Plus, they rarely report anything in my neighborhood. They&#8217;re very Center City centered. Although CP and PW fill that niche very nicely.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Durso</title>
		<link>http://phillygrrl.com/2009/09/02/brian-tierneys-latest-campaign/#comment-2059</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Durso]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nicely put, pg ... I&#039;d be more inclined to &quot;Keep It Local,&quot; as Philadelphia Media keeps urging me, if there more, y&#039;know, local content in the Inky and DN instead of scads of wire copy ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely put, pg &#8230; I&#8217;d be more inclined to &#8220;Keep It Local,&#8221; as Philadelphia Media keeps urging me, if there more, y&#8217;know, local content in the Inky and DN instead of scads of wire copy &#8230;</p>
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